Migratory Patterns
#044: Uncovering the Untold Story of ‘The Six’ | Steven Schwankert

#044: Uncovering the Untold Story of ‘The Six’ | Steven Schwankert

October 14, 2019
Steve Schwankert is one of the proudest and most committed expats that I've ever met. Originally from "the part of New Jersey that loves Spingsteen, and not the part that loves Bon Jovi," Steven had his eyes set on moving to China as early as high school. Now, 23 years after making the leap, he's sick and tired of people asking him when he's going to "come home" - because he already is. His career in journalism has led him to many interesting projects, and his latest, the new documentary, The Six, is incredibly exciting. It tells the story of how he and his collaborators set off to unearth the stories of the 6 Chinese migrant workers who survived the sinking of the Titanic. Not only is it an incredible feat of research and storytelling, but it lays bare the risks and discrimination that migrants in the [late 19th and early] 20th centuries faced when they tried making their way from East to West. And while technology and methods of transport may have changed for most migrants since then, the story otherwise remains the same. And the greatest lesson for all of us might not be what it takes for people to make their way to a new home, but what their effort says about what it means to originally be from that place. Can you know what it means to be an American if you've never had to fight to be one?
 
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BONUS 02: The Stoop #07 - Coming to America

BONUS 02: The Stoop #07 - Coming to America

October 10, 2019
This week we're sharing a little something extra with you: The episode of The Stoop that got me hooked on the show! As I discussed with her during our interview earlier this week, co-host Hana Baba has explored and discovered new things about her heritage through her work producing her podcast. One of the things that she talked about with me are the particular attitudes and that Sudanese bring with them when they immigrate, and some common disillusionments that they experience after their arrival. Like many immigrants, people coming from Africa imagine the US as a haven, a moneymaking paradise. When they get here, it can be a different story. On this episode of The Stoop we meet African immigrants who tell their stories of "Coming To America," and what the wish they'd known before they came.
 
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#043: From Sudan to America to ‘The Stoop’ | Hana Baba

#043: From Sudan to America to ‘The Stoop’ | Hana Baba

October 7, 2019
Hana Baba, the award-winning host of Crosscurrents on KALW & co-host of the groundbreaking podcast, The Stoop, grew up in much the same way as her baby sister, Ethar (see previous episode)- by splitting her time between Khartoum, Sudan, and the U.S. Now that she's all grown up with a family of her own, the concept of "Home" is complicated, as it stirs up feelings of longing for different places depending on where she is at that moment. Her experience being raised in wildly different environments has given her a profound desire to live in diverse, multicultural areas, and a drive to explore the complexities of the cultures that we inhabit through her work as a journalist. Her podcast, The Stoop, is an expression of this, as she and her co-host, Leila Day, tackle issues surrounding blackness, race, and identity in America through the eyes of the black diaspora.
 
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#042: The Sudan-America Two-step | Ethar Baba

#042: The Sudan-America Two-step | Ethar Baba

September 30, 2019

This week I'm bringing you the first of my conversations with two sisters who've shared a similar globe-spanning bi-cultural upbringing. Ethar Baba is the youngest in a family of 6 Sudanese-American children who all split their time between their parents' hometown of Khartoum and Washington, D.C. Moving back and forth between cultures during her childhood caused some problems, making her feel sometimes like she didn't fit in in either place. It wasn't until she got to college where was able to accept and begin to integrate her two identities. Ironically, it's only been since she started living in China, and she picked up an insatiable travel bug, that she's been able to finally get a sense of where "Home" is in all of that. For now, anyway.

Note: This interview was recorded live at meeting of the Beijing chapter of Podcast Brunch Club, which is why you'll hear some moving about and the occasional clinking of glasses and silverware. in the background. To learn more about PBC check out the bonus episode from June.

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#041: Pop Abroad | Michelle Ibarra

#041: Pop Abroad | Michelle Ibarra

September 23, 2019

We kick off Season 3 of the show by welcoming our newest team member to Migration Media, Michelle Ibarra! Her show, Pop Abroad, explores the keys to finding success and living your best life overseas. The show's first season explores the importance of community in our lives and how successful people have built theirs. Her own desire for community led her to the organization Girl Gone International, where she's thrived as the Shanghai-based Community Manager for Asia & Oceania. Along the way, she's had stints in Argentina, South Korea and Europe, and now she says that she might be ready for some time back in the US. But I'm not sure if I believe her. Given how good she is at the whole community-building thing, I think that her call to live overseas hasn't quite expired yet.

Check out Michelle's podcast, "Pop Abroad" here, or by searching for it wherever you get your podcasts! You can also follow Michelle on Instagram at @PopAbroad. Learn more about Girl Gone International and search for a chapter near you by visiting them online, or on all of the social media places:

 
 
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Season 3 Is Coming!

Season 3 Is Coming!

September 20, 2019

Welcome to Season 3 of Migratory Patterns! After dozens of conversations across 2 seasons I'm more passionate than ever about exploring the lives of international migrants. What drives us to move away from home? What makes us stay overseas? And how does it change us? As an expat myself, I'm exploring these ideas within my own life, and I'm thrilled to be able to share my conversations about them with a wide variety of people who are living outside of their places of origin. From two Sudanese-American sisters who shared a parallel bi-cultural upbringing, to a Chinese woman who followed her husband to New York City, to an Argentinian-Israeli in Boston who is breaking new ground in the field of mental health for migrant families, this season features the most diverse group of guests yet. I think that we raise more questions than answers, but they're questions that need asking, and I can't wait to share them with you!

 
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BONUS 01: Podcast Brunch Club Beijing - June 2019

BONUS 01: Podcast Brunch Club Beijing - June 2019

July 2, 2019
Season 2 has wrapped, but I'm dropping this special bonus episode as a "Going On Hiatus" present. This past spring, I organized a Beijing chapter of Podcast Brunch Club, a global community of podcast enthusiasts who gather each month to talk about what they're listening to and share recommendations. To help things along, leaders provide a Listening List of podcast episodes that follow a topic, which the local chapters discuss when they meet. "It's like book club, but for podcasts!" June's topic, Understanding China, was a great opportunity for PBC members who live in the country to share their insights with folks in chapters around the world, so we planned to livecast our conversation. That didn't work out so well (because China- thanks GFW!), but we recorded the audio to share with them anyway, and I'm dropping it here! It was a lively discussion that featured a collection of expats/migrants and local Chinese who had lots to say about what western media gets right about China, and what they often leave out of their narratives.
 
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#040: Leaving Beijing Behind - Season 2 Finale | Alisa Rutherford-Fortunati III

#040: Leaving Beijing Behind - Season 2 Finale | Alisa Rutherford-Fortunati III

June 25, 2019

This is it dear listeners. We've come to the end of yet another season- and what a ride it's been! When I began this experiment last summer I was searching for community. I was thinking a lot about the changes that I have gone through as I have spent more and more time overseas, and I was wondering if anybody else out there was going through the same thing. Now only have I discovered that the questions that have been coming up for me are nearly universal among people who choose to live overseas, but there is also precious little space for us to talk about them with each other. So this podcast has not only gained a small but growing audience, but it's become a passion project that has all but overtaken everything else in my life, and it's inspired some big changes, as you'll hear... To wrap up Season 2 of the show, I'm joined once again by amazing partner in life, Alisa Rutherford-Fortunati, to talk about the incredible shifts that have taken place in our lives over the last 6 months, and how our #MigrationStory is about to undergo a drastic evolution!

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#039: Feeling Out Of Place At Home? Try Stardom Abroad! | Brian O’shea

#039: Feeling Out Of Place At Home? Try Stardom Abroad! | Brian O’shea

June 18, 2019

While growing up in his native Argentina, Brian O'shea never quite felt like he belonged, so it's no surprise that his idea of where "Home" is boils down the sum of an equation with ever-shifting values that works out to something like Home = Where You Are + Where Your family Is + Where the People You Care About Are. It's probably one of the most adaptable and relate-able definitions that I've come across so far- which makes sense, since Brian is one of the most adaptable and relate-able people that you can ever hope to meet. And it's those traits that have helped him achieve massive success as a vlogger in China, where he has tens of millions of fans who tune in to his videos. He's become what I like to call a "bridge person," someone is uniquely positioned to help connect people from different cultures, and he's created a space where Chinese people can learn about their own culture through his discovery of it.

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#038: From Tourist to Line Cook to Restaurateur to TV Star: A Migrant’s Journey | Jun Trinh

#038: From Tourist to Line Cook to Restaurateur to TV Star: A Migrant’s Journey | Jun Trinh

June 11, 2019

Jun Trinh never thought he'd be in China. As a half-Chinese kid growing up in Toronto he refused offers to take trips there with his family. He never went to Mandarin class. But now, 11 years after a detour during an around-the-world trip all but marooned him in Beijing, he's thinking about his next steps and reflecting on the internal voyage of self-discovery that he's been on since he's been there. His time in China has not only changed him, but he's had the very rare opportunity to make a visible, tangible impact on the culture. He's opened a successful restaurant that has blazed a culinary trail in the city's ultra-competitive, world-class F&B scene, and his talents even landed him on TV, first as a contestant and a judge on popular cooking shows, and then as a host of his own travel / cooking show. So how does one follow up such n incredible decade-plus stint like that? Could the only logical next goal be to become a yacht captain in the Mediterranean? Just who is this guy, anyway? Does he even know?

 
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